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KittyhawkMontrose
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Hi, it's Kittyhawk! I make comics and art, and I also make games with Montrose.

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Joined on 9/11/19

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@TurkeyOnAStick

I don't mean to butt in but I don't see how the art was too much, like I don't like foreskin being that thick to the point where it's covering the head.

But that's the only problem, the drawing features an adult, not engaging in dangerous sexual activities, and the piece doesn't feature a real life figure or anyone they met in person in some odd act of creating revenge porn.

Its honestly tame compared to what ive seen on the site before, and this is coming from a guy who was made uncomfortable by the piece.

To comment on the " i feel people would use this as a excuse to repost their art" yeah, that's kinda the point of the thread, people were allowed to share their tasteful nudes drawings for the sake of a ref. If people post it more than once then it would be a problem since it follows under spam but as far as I can tell, that was not the case.

Another thing to comment on is your claim on how it feels like a repeat of another post, while it is true, it's clear it's supposed to be a follow up to that past thread. It's a way to create new engagements and hear new opinions on the topic, seeing how threads can dry out after a day or two, plus it's better than them reposting it again and again to farm views.

Finally I would like to comment on your statement on the ai discussion. As someone who hates ai i can agree constantly seeing how it's gonna end the world be a bit tiring. But and as much as I hate using this as a point since I know how many people use this as a way to excuse their poor behavior. I can't help but to feel that your taking away peoples freedom of speech. If somethings negative or it effects others then yeah, people are going to talk about it and how to fix it or discuss their views on the subject, I can't help but feel locking the thread and deleting her comment because everyone else brings it up is a bit silly. That's like If i made thread sharing my views on the velma show and how it's god awful, just for it to be taken down because it's beating a dead horse. The thread was just about how to protect yourself from getting your art stolen by AI users, it wasn't bullying/ belittling others who use or support it nor was it looking for a army to start a witch hunt.

Look, im sure your a good guy and I'll even give you the benefit of the doubt and say you didn't do all this because you have a bone to pick with kitty hawk and your just doing job.

Im not even trying to be this " rebellious freedom fighter who stands up to the man" im just im just an average Joe who only wants to stick his neck out for his friend and her husband.

One of the best things about newgrounds is it's opening and welcoming community and to shut others out or allow users who only wish to bully or put down others users is something i heavily disagree with and im sorry to say but that fact alone will only push others away from the site.

Please take to what i had to say in careful consideration. Have a good mother's day.

Thanks for that, man. I appreciate you standing by us. It's OK to have preferences as you say, but yeah, this mod is abusing his powers to stifle speech.

@AlfaFranek
I’ve literally no idea what you’re talking about as it had nothing to do with criticism.
Likewise, I’ve no idea why Kitty is agreeing with you?

As I said down below, it’s because I felt the post had cartoonish anatomy and not appropriate for the thread.

The “harassment” is that they posted the same post 4 times and I deleted it 4 times.

It’s got nothing to do with “criticism” and I don’t know what gave you that idea.

[[TurkeyOnAStick SAYS about 10 hours ago
@AlfaFranek
I’ve literally no idea what you’re talking about as it had nothing to do with criticism.
Likewise, I’ve no idea why Kitty is agreeing with you?

As I said down below, it’s because I felt the post had cartoonish anatomy and not appropriate for the thread.

The “harassment” is that they posted the same post 4 times and I deleted it 4 times.

It’s got nothing to do with “criticism” and I don’t know what gave you that idea.]]

"CARTOONISH ANATOMY"? What? ON NEWGROUNDS? My god, i didn't know I needed to do photorealistic art! Maybe I should take photo... Oh wait, PHOTOS are against the rules, but you know what isn't against the rules, because it would be stupid? CARTOONISH ANATOMY.

I guess Starbarbarians should also be wiped from the site. Shall we tell Harry the bad news?

Tell me how it's cartoonish, and I'm going to laugh because you have NOTHING. Muscle men exist, big dongs exist too. I'm sorry that they do because it obviously upsets you.

Ohhhhh, so on a buggy site I'm just supposed to assume that everything is modding and not that my post went into the ether? Remember a few weeks ago when no one could vote for almost 24 hours and there was no inkling of info from the staff until people started asking? I have to always post in two steps to make sure tags aren't lost too. I know you know there's still a scouting bug, which is used to keep people unscouted forever. Isn't that convenient? You gonna use it on me, mod? Wanna try and see what happens?

Also, I'm the HARASSER? You're the guy following me around, deleting my comments! WITH NO MODMAIL. You need to look in the mirror so you can see the villain. You are the aggressor here. You are using your own rules and STALKING users. @TomFulp, do you listen to your mods?

You are seriously reaching now, friendo.

Nothing like a mod abusing their power to ruin everyone's fun.

You know it!

@KittyhawkMontrose quoting The Weeknd's song called Baptized in Fear one line lyric "Voices'll tell me that I should carry on"

At this point it's just straight up bullying

Yep, and yet, I'm being accused of "harassment" by the mod. It's fucking clown town in here.

Oh, I'm so sorry that you had to deal with that. I feel bad for you, Kittyhawk. :(

Thank you for your support. I really appreciate you being on my side. đź’–

@KittyhawkMontrose something to do with drawing the girls from KonoSuba getting removed

Oh, I see why your art wasn't there. I posted it myself but my post is gone too.

@TurkeyOnAStick While I appreciate you making sure people in my thread stay on topic, if I had a problem with someone's post I would tell them, and if they insisted on it I would have contacted you.

I feel that less is more when it comes to moderating these threads. How can discussions evolve naturally if there's someone preemptively removing posts and locking threads? How can community grow if people don't see the point in engaging because they think their engagement will be deleted?

It's clear at this point the mod wants me and others gone so the site can have "perfect" conversation. What a joke. Thank you for posting my art. I'm sorry this has happened to your thread again. I was hoping it could be a chill and fun one, and I hope it can return to being so. đź’–

And people wonder why so many of us want nothing to do with BBS. Why deal with a bunch of pedantic jannies on a decades old forum, when users can just reach out to each other and form their own discords or IRCs?

And while I love my IRC channel and the Discords I'm part of, going to them drives traffic away from the site, which hurts the site. The Forum is the heart of Newgrounds, and it's sick rn.

@KittyhawkMontrose

To clarify, you called me a harasser in response to Kmau:
“JFC, you're just agreeing with a serial harasser.”

This “harassment” is you posting the same post 4-times and I deleted it 4-times.

Don’t know why I’m being called a “stalker”, now. I think this is too much.

[[TurkeyOnAStick about 2 hours ago
@KittyhawkMontrose

To clarify, you called me a harasser in response to Kmau:
“JFC, you're just agreeing with a serial harasser.”

This “harassment” is you posting the same post 4-times and I deleted it 4-times.

Don’t know why I’m being called a “stalker”, now. I think this is too much.]]

You are a harasser. You are a stalker. You are deleting posts that I make, that my husband makes, and that mention me. Stop trying to paint me as the aggressor.

YOU STARTED THIS WHEN YOU BANNED ME UNDER FALSE PRETENSES. Everyone could see the ban was unjustified, which is why it was reversed. Now you keep citing non-rule "conversation shaping" reasons that even the thread owner doesn't agree with for deleting my post. You try to avoid a confrontation where you know you'll look foolish by not writing modmails that I can publicly share and instead hoping I'll just give up by attrition.

This is too much. Stop deleting my posts for personal reasons disguised as rules or controlling the thread.

@TurkeyOnAStick

Stop playing as the victim. You are supposed to act like a mod, not like a bully. What I see here is a person abusing of his mods powers just because he doesn't like something.

Thank you for your support, my friend. đź’–

I'm just gonna say it.

This whole situation now has me wondering why there is so much drama in the NSFW art scene that I don't feel its appropriate to take sides.

I don't even know anymore, there's no longer a clear understanding of whos right and whos wrong in this instance. From a third party point of view, this just leaves more questions than answers or solutions.

So whatever.

Suddenly recall this OLD YouTube video of Tom Fulp at a party (on a roof?), and I tried to find it to show it's real...but it may have been scrapped? Within it, Tom talked about Newgrounds vs. YouTube in regard to the audience they retain, and how YouTube was forcing kids to lie about not being kids, and Newgrounds didn't even bother. They KNEW the audience was likely going to have children, and they weren't going to go out of their way to make kids jump through hoops to watch violence or sex.

This position may have changed? Newgrounds experienced a lot of growing pains, and the environment had to adapt as a result in order to continue to be a space that allowed new work to thrive and not just the old guard. It's the duty of content moderators to make sure the intended environment grows, and there is definitely miscommunication on Turkey's part, and maybe even among the team on what the goals are. :(

@KittyhawkMontrose also it's odd how this cross the lines, when supporters keep post weird porn on take over Tuesday.

I'm not one to judge another's porn, but yeah, there's a lot of porn on TT. Which is what it's for! Promotion!

You're just being an attention whore at this point. And stop trying to pull other users into this drama

Hi Void! How's things in the far eastern Australian state of New Zealand?